Hurricane Katrina is suppose to make land fall Monday Morning. Hope it does the minimum amount of damage possible. Man it is HUGE!

Saw on the news that gas prices will rise again because of it. Like they needed an excuse. Having no excuse at all hasn't kept them from going up!

Truckin' is out. Go check it out.

Going to play another 72os Head Hunter tonight. They are starting to get to me. Finished in the money 4 out of 5 and still have not cashed in a bounty!

Till Next Time!

Almost Zero

I have not played any poker since my last post. Well, almost none. I have enjoyed the time "off". I did indulge in two headhunter tournaments at JetSet. I like them. One was with the 72os Crew , it was my first headhunter and was real fun. I finished 22nd when I floped a straight vs. trips and he hit runner runner full house. OUCH!

Last night I played a HH Sit N Go. Got ZERO cards for the whole thing except for maybe three hands and limped into third for a money finish. No heads though. So I think I will try some more of these. The concept for those who do not now is that each player starts the Sit N Go or Tournament with a bounty and if you take that person out, you win the bounty. Plus if you finish ITM, you win that also. Each players bounty is different based on JetSet's tournament leader board. The higher up the leader board they are, the more they are worth. Very cool concept and makes the game a lot more interesting.

Interesting news:

A women in Mecklenburg County, N.C., attempted to chase snakes out of a couch on her front porch by dousing the nest with lighter fluid, but then an accidentally dropped match set a fire large enough that she had to jump out a window to safety.

True story....out of newspaper.
So many jokes, so little time.

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I Have Run Out

Learn the art of patience. Apply discipline to your thoughts when they become anxious over the outcome of a goal. Impatience breeds anxiety, fear, discouragement and failure. Patience creates confidence, decisiveness, and a rational outlook, which eventually leads to success.
Brian Adams

I know it seems I have been talking a lot lately about patience in your game. Waiting for the right opportunity and taking advantage. Most of it stems from me coming to the realization that I am losing mine.

"Impatience breeds anxiety, fear, discouragement and failure" - That discribes a lot of my game right now. I have a very lackluster attitude towards playing and can't keep the intensity up. I'm pushing hands to hard and just not picking the right spots.

I read in a post or article or something about online players see twice as many hands as live players so that equates to playing twice as long. He goes on to explain that 1 year online play would equal 2 years of live play and so on. I have been playing full time now for 10 months. So, extrapulating that out using the above information means almost two years worth of poker with no extended break. That's not counting the reading, studying, web site, blog and other poker related time I have spent.

Iggy as well as others have written about the drudgery of poker for a living. Thats what it really is to me right now, a drudgery. I know have a luxury though that I didn't have before. That is money coming in (good money) from my wife going back to work. So it is almost time for an extended break. I have 270 points left to get from the last Poker Stars reload and then I will stop for a while. Atleast till school for the kids starts back up.

I have ordered two more books: Internet Poker by Lou Krieger (Poker Stars Points to good use?) and the H/L Split Poker book by Ray Zee. Good reading for my hiatus. Harrington on Holdem II is on that list also but will have to wait a while. Can't go TOTALLY pokerless....that would be bad :) .

I like to set goals for myself and I beleive when I come back in a couple weeks I will set some new ones. This time though it will include many more breaks away from poker than before. I am not down on poker full time. I would still recommend it to anyone in the right situation. Just like anything you do for the first time, I need to tweek the overall operation and adjust for some more quality time away from the tables as well.


Till Next Time!

One of those Nights

Bad Beats - A few. Suck Outs - A Few.

Main problem - Me! I played like crap!

Making calls I shouldn't, betting when I knew they hit their draws, overly aggressive and impatient. That about covers it. Worst night I have played in a long time. Looking back there are calls and bets that I made I can't explain. Not sure where my head was.

The humbling feeling of poker. 3 days of finishing up, wiped out in 3 hours. I wish I could go on and on about this suck out and that unreal call and how lucky this player was, but I really can't. I lost that money mainly through stupid play.

It upset me a lot last night. I thought I was beyond making some of the major mistakes I made. (Betting big on the turn with a set when the straight hit) Then I realized that it was OK. All players of all professions have bad nights.

Arguably the best hitter in baseball, Ted Williams, FAILED to hit a baseball 6 out of 10 times. A part of baseball lore, a legend, Hall of Famer, had a 40% success rate. In today’s market he would be a millionaire many times over. As history tells us though, a fierce competitor, he came to play.

I have said this many times, people play poker for different reasons, but to play to win, you have to be mentally in the game and "come to play". Though I do not have any statistics, I would wager a 40% success rate would win you a lot of money.

During the time my kids were in school, I had a set time to play and was prepared to sit during that time and play poker. Though I didn't do anything specific, I knew I was playing between these times and I was mentally ready to go. Lately, I believe a lot of my problems are stemming from not being totally committed to playing poker and trying to "fit it in".

School here starts back Sept. 4th and will be back on a regular program again. Till then I guess I have to live with the "fit it in" part or cut down on the play.

Till Next Time!

What a Few Days!

Since I last posted, I tried to update 4Flush and crashed my database. OOPS! After many frustrating tries at re-installing the back up files, I always got 99% of the site back up and one button that wouldn't work. Of course it was the button that let me post to the site! So I ended up re-vamping the whole thing and added some new catorgories and updating the menu. 4 days later and I am all done and to be honest, very pleased with the new look. Well, not exactly new LOOK, but new features and overall flow of the site.

Anyway, didn't get to play much poker obviously but did play a little PLO8 at Stars. It hit me one of the big differences between Holdem and O8. I guess I knew it all along in a way but it just crystalized over the weekend.

There are more gamblers in PLO8 than players. There are more people willing to risk A LOT of money that their draw will hit (especially low draws). I am new to this game and maybe that is just the nature of pot limit H/L games but I do find that aspect intriguing. I have played some NL this summer and even though I experience some of the same gambling attitude it was not as wide spread.

I have seen 8 $100+ pots this week at .25/.50 PL Omaha H/L on Poker Stars and the biggest one ($148) Sunday night. Four people putting in an average of $37 a piece! ONE guy swept it. In a high/Low split game and $148 pot you would guess there would be a split! At least quartered. This guy had the best high and nut low and NOBODY WOULD FOLD! The three other "players" were all on draws.

I gasped out loud. Though I understand the gambling mentality and actually like to play against them (if they are not runnung hot). It is still hard for me to grasp that kind of thinking. We all play poker for different reasons. I guess I ran into a few that play for the big score and adrenaline rush. (Yes, as a side note......tonight that payed off for me.)

So, with the site back up and running and all is back to normal in my cyber world, it will be back to playing Monday.

Till Next Time!

Things I have learned playing PL Omaha H/L:

1) A2 is played like the “Holy Grail”.

2) Nobody considers their low could be quartered.

3) Patience! Patience! Patience!

4) A lot of people playing, very few understanding the game

5) Don’t let them chase the low.

6) Some will chase it anyway.

Been a VERY profitable run so far in my “new” game. I have really enjoyed it. I still find it uterly amazing how many people out there that will just throw their money at you. I am not winning every time I sit down but it is close to 90%. The betting patterns of these players are freakishly predictable.

Don't get me wrong now, there are a few here that really know what they are doing, I just stay away from them. For the most part though it is easy money. It is even amusing to see someone bet pot time and time again pre-flop and check the flop of all high cards over and over. Then berate you for calling down when they bluff.

Of course I am still playing the $50 buy in PL games so I am sure as I move up the players will get a little better. I can say though I am really enjoying playing again. Even finished in the money of a PLO8 2-table SnG on Stars.

Till Next Time!

The System

Before I get into my anecdote for the evening, I would like to take a moment and thank Felicia for taking the time to drop a comment on my last post. With all that you have been through, to take the time to visit a blog that is still in its infancy and looking for its direction means a lot to me. Thank You!

I would like to start this story out with the first part of one of my many favorite sayings:

Luck doesn’t give; ……….

I would like to share an experience today with a player we will call Normal. Now, Normal seemed like a good ole fella. He didn’t talk much but seemed polite enough with a “NH” here and there.

The first hand Normal plays was masterful and I knew it was going to be a mind altering session right from the start. I make a pot bet from the button with AK23 (A3 suited) I see a great flop for me with nut low and 4 flushing. I bet pot. Normal is only caller. Turn was a 7 and river a blank and I split the pot with Normal who called both pot bets with 7772!!!!!!!!

This was to be part of a master plan though, because two hands later found Normal hitting a river ten to win half a pot with TTTA!!!!!!! Now up some $20 on his $50 buy in, Normal installs part two of this master PLO8 plan, he plays every hand no matter what. I warned you, mind altering. This is pure genius. Since you never know what 4 cards could actually turn into a hand, play all of them. I got chills, knowing I was sitting to the right of such a great thinker.

He ran his buy in up to $117 with many plays like the ones above. When step three of his plan was sent into motion…..take a break. He set out for a while for what could only be a self satisfying moment that only a mind like his could conceive.

…..It only lends.

After his return he slips back into the masterful play of before. Something was a miss though. The planets were not aligned right. The power was gone and he left the table 35 minutes later with $37.

Fully distraught over what happened, I threw away all my notes on my fallen hero. I was certain I had found the system to all new sorts of riches. Guess I will have to go back to grinding and doing it the hard way.

Till Next Time!

More Converted?

Been playing PLO8 exclusively this week and I am up big. It amazes me again and again how many people will put ALL their money in on a draw. Whether it is a nut low draw or flush draw or OESD or whatever! I have seen it over and over. It doesn't even need to be the nut draw either. I saw someone go all in and needed runner runner to hit a low...no high hand at all. One that spent $28 on THIRD best LOW hand. Boggles my mind, but can't complain. Money is good.

I haven't played any Holdem since last week and can see I am becoming more converted by the day. I guess I can say I am 50/50 now. I will look at both Holdem and O8 tables before sitting anywhere. Really wanted to play in the Poker Stars WCOOP in Omaha H/L but there aren't any. May try a couple in Holem though.

Hold on to your hats...I am even winning at UB playing PLO8!! What I think I will do is ride the wave and when the eventual evening out comes, I will switch back to holdem. Hopefully it will keep everything fresh and lower the burn out rate a little. We'll see I guess.

Till Next Time!

Plus for Europe!

Monday thru Wednesday it has been over 100 degrees and humidity through the roof here in central Virginia. NOT ONE TIME did this idea ever come up.

It pushes the mid 90's in Vienna...BAM! Everyone goes naked to the museum. FOR FREE!

Have a great weekend...I'm looking for cheap plane tickets!


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A Little Groveling Does Help

Groveling to the poker gods and actually putting in the hours. For all those that may have mentioned me to the poker gods I do thank you. Been a good couple days, ESPECIALLY at the Poker Stars PLO8 tables. Been playing mostly .25/.50 and .50/$1 PL and though I am still new to the Omaha H/L game, I must say they are really juicey.

I have made about $100 a day playing about 3 hours and one table at a time. Talk about teaching you patience! There are about 5 players I recognize as always in these games (so far). They rarely play a hand and when they do it is usually big. They are always 1 1/2 to 3 times the minimum buy in also. They play good starting hands, they play them hard and I am learning a bunch by watching them. I have seen a rise in my game in the last couple days and even winning a few big pots with just the low after a pot size bet on the river.

Still getting some weird things happening to me at UB and I'm getting my ass handed to me over there. So I am done with them for a while. Last night, 5 players limp and I see the flop with 57o in BB. I flop an OESD and turn the straight. The turn and river get capped....MP has 57 and we split! I'm just getting torched over there right now.

I'm thinking of cashing and going to Noble Poker for their 100% up to $700. Jsaw says the $3/$6 there are unbelievably fishy so with the new software upgrade, I beleive I will try it.

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Enough of me, if you have a good joke, Felicia can use one. Send one to Alcanthang or sign up here. Still thinking about you.

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For those Star War fans who don't know what to do with all their poker winnings....here you go!

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Thats about it, on to more grinding!

Till Next Time

Another Learning Step

"If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure."

Dan Quayle

That quote just rings with me. Since I do find myself a little abnormally adverse to failure. I find at times that I play toooo tight trying not to fail instead of playing to succeed. This all feeds on the fact that I get to emotionally attached to winning and losing. As I posted a while back, I'm working on that one.

Case in point: 72os event last night. I was in top 10 in chips about half way through. Folded to CO who raises. Typical play and I have 99 in the BB. I just called hoping for no high cards on the flop and I would go all in. I flop set and go all in. I was instantly called by AA. Perfectly played until an Ace fell on river. I was covered and I was out.

I allowed myself a minute or two to stare blankly at my empty chair and said NOOO load enough for my wife to come in and ask what was wrong, then I finished updating the freeroll calendar and went to bed. Slept like a baby. I am not a real outwardly emotional person. I am realizing that even though I can rationally explain that bad beats happen, the long run will take care of itself, it's a life long session, ect., I still have to let the emotional side out also. I don't think I will ever be that throw my cup, punch the wall or break a chair type person but maybe a few "OMG's". "NOOOO" or whatever else would be appropriate. I'll get to test that out this week and good.

I get to spend the next few days alone till the working stiffs get home. I have one child at summer camp and one at "Camp Grandma's". All for the whole week! So a little outward expression is due. Who knows, I may even break a pencil! LOL.

So it's poker time! No one is here and can play on a schedule. I have read all the David Ross posts and even have printed them out in a book to read over and over. Summer time was ruff with him also. Having the kids home makes it hard to just sit up in my computer room and put in the hours. There's swimming to be done, games to play, Theme Parks to visit....making childhood lifetime memories. Some things, as I have said many times before, are more important than money.

This week is Camp Poker for dad so lets take a moment to pay tribute to the poker gods and hope they look favorable upon my return (though may be short) to scheduled poker.


Till Next Time!

Getting There

I played a two table SnG at Poker Stars last night and about 20 or so hands in I started wondering about the quality of players there when I realized it was a limit SnG. Oops! In a way this helped though. I am a grinder who had played every SnG I have ever entered as NL. Why not start playing them where my strength lies?

Anyway, I opened a $2/$4 table to play also because I was in for a longer session than I had anticipated. I made the final table of the SnG and left the ring game -2. As you know top 4 pay and I as 4th in chips going in. At the risk of sounding arrogant, I played well and before I new it we were down to three. I was about even chip with second and behind 1st almost 2:1. First place was playing well and I didn't see him blowing that lead but thought I could get heads up with him and it would be fun.

Then I went out in third in two hands. KJs in SB raised the second place player and he calls. Hit J high flop and he calls me down with bottom pair(T7o) to river a gut shot straight. Then he types "Got Lucky" in chat box. Next hand 22 and I get all my money in on a all low RAINBOW flop and he calls me with Qh6h and rivers a queen.

I felt like Hellmuth, if it wasn't for luck I would have won it all. LOL. I enjoyed it though, enough to go play a little $1/$2 PLO8 afterwards. After a small victory there, I quit for the evening. It really felt good to play again.

There is a couple things that I have found I want to purchase for my little race cars and I told myself that poker will pay for it. So I have found a little motivation and maybe I can get back into the full swing of things again.

Since I feel like I should leave you with some meaningful information and I really don't have any, Felicia will save the day with this great site about strategy on all kinds of games. Great read, hope you enjoy it also.


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Enthusiasm/Motivation/Fun

All of it is gone.

After the brief break in the curse I have been at best break even but that is not the real problem. I am lacking any type of motivation or enthusiasm to play lately. I took two weeks off about a week ago and nothing so I think I will take a few more off.

I can track down why this is happening to two causes. My wife landed a fantastic job with Wachovia bank and I now it is not a "play or go hungary" scenerio. For some reason that has zapped the motivation right out of me. I'm not multi tabling and it just isn't fun anymore. I posted a while back how keeping it fun was to me the most important part. If you are not enjoying yourself, you can't perform at the level needed to be sucessful. I have proven that again to myself recently.

The other cause is I am home. I actually have begun to get a life. (LOL) I have my two kids all day to myself and we go swimming and currently involved in a very serious game of Fantastic 4 on the PS2 with my 7 year old. I am of course running 4Flush and helping my dad get his site going and added a forum for him. Now we are getting ready to lauch a little shop from his site and some other things. Add to that I am racing the remote control cars again and well, I have been distracted.

The one good part in all this is that I haven't lost the desire for poker. I am still refreshing all the WSOP sites and keeping an eye on the big show. I not sure that is good for some though. Rooted for Ivey (out), Raymer (out) and just said a couple nights a go that the jail house to the pen house would make a great movie...Matusow (out). I think I am going to bet a fortune on one of the last 7 guys remaining and root like hell against him so I will win.


I did enjoy playing in UB's new 3 table Sit N Go's and may try a few of those instead of the constant grind of limit play. I still have a few bonus dollars to work off there and at Poker Stars but that will have to wait a little longer.

Till Next Time!

Broke the Curse

It started with a $9 winning session and turns into a mini-run. I guess for now the curse is broken. OK, so it wasn't a Red Sox or Cub's curse but it still had an effect.

I was playing Sunday in a $1/$2 kill game on UB. Bought in for $100, wasn't long was down $15 and holding steady. I was chatting with a friend and said if I get back to even I will stop and feel like a victory. Then I realized that I hadn't updated the freeroll calendar on my site and decided I would just play till I was done doing that. Then BAM! JJ goes down to 55 when a 5 hits the river and AK goes down to KT when he straights on the river. Dang, down to $55 and the curse hangs in.

Then I get A8s in the BB during a kill game and flop comes 8 high. 4 people call me down and my pair of 8's win! Up to $94 and three hands later QQ holds up and I leave up $9. Now you can add 2 more winning sessions to that and all is well again.

Even thought he whole time I knew eventually the cards would turn, it is still so frustrating to see moronic play rewarded as you sit and throw away hands they are calling raises with and winning. I think thats what makes the game so interesting, complicated and frustrating. Also why keeping your head during the down swings is so important.

Til Next Time!

Same Old Same Old

I am in a terrible slump. It seems like I can't win and it is driving me crazy. I played today for 4 hours and lost $93 at $2/$4. Thats why this is so frustrating. Not a bad session considering the stakes but if you add it up over 4-5 days, it is starting to get to me.

What makes it worse is that my high pocket pairs are holding up but I can't hit a draw to save my ass. Four flushing on flop...miss, open ended straight...missed, I had OESD and four flushing three times today and missed all three. A set, forgot what that looks like!

I know I'll come out of this but going through it is hard. I see 9To call three bet blind and flop straight, A6 call two blind and calls to river to hit gut shot. Players seeing 60% of the flops no matter what...winning big.

All come out of it..I hope, but there are more important things going on right now......

Lets send all the people in Pensacola, and Mobile all the prayers and well wishes possible.

Wrong Mentality

It almost seems I am pushing the ceiling to another level of poker. It use to really bother me when I would finish the day or week down money and I thought I had put this behind me. I am a decent poker player but "That's Poker" or "That's just the variation in the game" wasn't REALLY having any meaning to me even though I would spout that off any time I could.

I haven't been winning consistently lately and it has been bothering me again. It seems like -EV and I run in the same pattern. Mine have been little losses coupled with a little win that always manages to leave me negative at the end of the week. I have searched through poker tracker, reread sections in books, read blogs and searched forums. Guess what, I'm not getting any cards. It's that simple. Nothing I can do about it. My high pocket pairs are winning (Most pre-flop after folding 20 straight hands of 52os) my draws are coming in, it's just no cards. My VPiP% is extremely low during the past few thousand hands. Don't get me wrong, I haven't played perfect poker by no means. I found, as always, places were I should be more aggressive or called because of the right odds. Mostly though it has been a run of unplayable cards.

I started racing remote control cars again with my dad. (Yes I pimped my dad!) We raced over the July 4th weekend and he used me playing cards as an example about something else but what he said started to ring louder to me as this week as progressed. He said "money should have nothing to do with gambling".

Though I chuckled at first, I couldn't get this out of my head. After another losing session last night it hit me. Who cares! No big deal! It's just temporary! Don't get me wrong now, the other parts of the game like reading, reviewing your play and being a student of the game is still important but for me, I have to stop keeping score so much. 15 years as a salesman getting paid off profit, knowing where every dime was spent is a way of life for me and has made me good money. Now though, I think it has become a detriment to my game psychologically.

I realize now that when I take a lost at the end of the day I am starting the next day, in my head, from behind and have this "I have to make up for yesterday" mentality. The major problem is it is all sub-conscience and until recently I didn't realize I was doing it. All those years of selling taught me that if you spend x amount of money you better put a little more x on the price side. (Yes, for all those still naive, you NEVER get something for nothing) This attitude does not go well with poker.

As a sales manager, we had to do monthly projections on the numbers we think we would do. You worked hard daily to keep up because at the end of the month you didn't want to be the one that said I missed my projection and lost money. You literally had to make up for a lost the next day before you could work on that day. Until recently, I didn't even know I was bringing that mindset to the game.

Know I have to change my way of thinking. Each day a separate day not related to the last. Keep learning and progressing and try to really grasp the reality of "the long run" in poker. For a middle aged married man, this might be an undertaking! I envy you all who can rejoice in the wins and lament the losses and go on the next day with little or no effect. I use to think I was one of you guys, but I haven't made a permanent change and slowly I slip back into the old way of thinking. (Kind of like the way my aggression will slip)

So I am going to tape "money has nothing to do with gambling" on my monitor and then sleep with it under my pillow till I truly realize that it is the long run in poker that is the most important.


Till Next Time!

WOW

Going away for weekend...let you chew on this till Monday. Here is the whole story.

First to Ten and the Odds

Way to go Johnny Chan! First to 10! Read all about it at Tao of Poker. I'm glad it wasnt Phil!

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Bet the early favorite or try a long shot! Here is what Bodog thinks:

	Phil Ivey	200/1
	Daniel Negreanu		200/1
	Phil Hellmuth		225/1
	Howard Lederer		225/1
	Gus Hansen		225/1
	Chris Ferguson		225/1
	Erick Lindgren		225/1
	Johnny Chan		250/1
	Barry Greenstein		250/1
	Dan Harrington		250/1
	Erik Seidel		250/1
	Doyle Brunson		250/1
	John Juanda		275/1
	Marcel Luske		275/1
	Men Nguyen		275/1
	Michael Mizrachi		275/1
	Scotty Nguyen		275/1
	David Pham		300/1
	Ted Forrest		300/1
	Amir Vahedi		300/1
	Carlos Mortenson		300/1
	Chau Giang		300/1
	Layne FLack		300/1
	Paul Phillips		325/1
	Sammy Farha		325/1
	Scott Fischman		325/1
	T.J. Cloutier		325/1
	Huck Seed		325/1
	Greg Raymer		325/1
	Phil Gordon		350/1
	Robert Williamson III		350/1
	Humberto Brenes		350/1
	David Williams		350/1
	Josh Arieh		350/1
	Thomas Keller		350/1
	Phil Laak		350/1
	Antonio Esfandiari		350/1
	Annie Duke		350/1
	Jennifer Harman		350/1
	Chip Reese		350/1
	Todd Brunson		350/1
	Freddy Deeb		350/1
	Chip Jett		350/1
	Paul Darden		375/1
	Tuan Le		375/1
	David Ulliot		375/1
	David Grey		375/1
	Allen Cunninghman		375/1
	Alan Goehring		400/1
	Barny Boatman		400/1

Get their whole list here and take a shot at one of Bodogs entrants...they are all 1250:1! Me? How can I resist not putting a little something on Barry Greenstein.

Nothing More to Add

Though I never met him, he effected me also. What a wonderful world we live in.

It can not be said any better than by his best friend.

Good Bye Charlie, God Speed

Life, Poker and the WSOP

If you haven't been following this, A Chick and a Chair has the story recap and the links to go to for Charlie. I would particularly like to comment on this from Spaceman:

Charlie also told me he’d received phone calls from John Juanda, Max Pescatori and Barry Greenstein. He’d been having breathing problems when John called so he couldn’t talk to him. He said Barry was a little nervous when they talked, but kind and friendly; Barry’s sending Charlie a copy of his new book. He said Max was really cool - Max was very excited about recently making the PLO final table at the World Series. Max is sending a copy of Super/System 2 - signed by as many pros as he can track down. The response from the poker community has been overwhelming - for a group of people who society tends to look down on, poker players are really some incredible people. And that includes all of you poker bloggers, too - we may not all be pros, but we do play the game. I hope that you all know how much your support means to Charlie’s friends and family - without going into any details, I’ll just say that it’s made an extremely emotional time a little bit easier for all of us.

I also know that Marcel Luske and others have called.

It's the WSOP. The most prestigious week of their careers. There are financial gains to concentrate on, player of the year implications and for some, a dream come true to win a bracelet. In the middle of this hurricane, they stop and call a man, a poker comrade, who is in dire straits.

It will not make ESPN or the front page of the Times but it is good enough that I know; there is class in this game.

I hope you get many, many more phone calls Charlie!

Edit: Greenstein wins it for Charlie